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Posted 10 April 2006 - 04:52 PM

Which doesn't scare me away just yet, I'm going to look at the car this Wednesday and if I like the visual, get a PPI done this weekend. This is going to be a weekend fun/track car so I'm not concerned with it's tarnished history, but I want a straight frame car that doesn't track. I plan on finding an uncrowned road and doing the hands off the wheel trick, I will have mention to the guys at the shop about the accidents too.

Based on my carfax, anything else in there that you guys are suspect to?

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The story of this 1994 PORSCHE 968 according to our interpretation of the information reported to CARFAX:
This coupe has had 2 owners and was owned in New York. It was originally registered by the owner for personal use.
It was involved in 2 different accidents. These police-reported accidents occurred in New York.
It has had no DMV-reported total loss events, like a major accident, fire or flood.
It has not been reported by a DMV as having an Exceeds Mechanical Limits or Not Actual Mileage title.
It has a consistent mileage history with no indication of an odometer rollback. It was driven an average of 7,665 miles per year, which is lower than the industry average of 15,000. The last odometer reading, reported on 06/29/2004, was 72,172 miles.
It was not reported by a DMV as a Manufacturer Buyback or LEMON.
It has no recalls that still require repair.
Its basic warranty has expired. You may want to discuss an extended warranty with your dealer.
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1. ACCIDENT CHECK

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Other Accident Indicators Accident Indicator Reported
2. MILEAGE ACCURACY CHECK

Truth-In-Mileage Check No Odometer Problems Reported by a DMV - Buyback Guarantee!
Odometer Rollback Check No Potential Odometer Rollback Found
Mileage Consistency Check No Inconsistent Odometer Reading Found
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4. OWNERSHIP CHECK

Number of Owners 2 Estimated Owner(s)
Type of Owners Originally Registered as a Personal Vehicle
5. RECALL CHECK
No Open Recall(s) Reported
6. WARRANTY CHECK
No Coverage Remaining on Basic Warranty. Interested in an Extended Warranty?
DETAILED VEHICLE HISTORY 29 HISTORY RECORDS REPORTED
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Year/Make/Model: 1994 PORSCHE 968

Body Style: COUPE
Engine: 3.0L L4 FI 16V DOHC
Fuel: GASOLINE
Driveline: REAR WHEEL DRIVE
Manufactured in: GERMANY
Safety Equipment: 4 wheel ABS, Dual front air bags/active (manual) belts

Standard Equipment: Power Windows, Power Steering, Air Conditioning, AM / FM Cassette, Power Brakes, Removable panels, 6-digit Odometer





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Total Loss Check:


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Salvage Title Loss Due To Fire Title
Junk Title Flood Damage Title
Rebuilt/Reconstructed Title Hail Damage Title
Dismantled Title Canadian Total Loss


Other Accident Indicators:


This 1994 PORSCHE 968 had accident indicators reported to CARFAX from its sources. This section checks for accidents and/or related damage reported from many public and private sources. Not all accidents are reported to CARFAX. A vehicle inspection completed by your dealer or professional mechanic is recommended.

No Salvage Auction Record Reported No Crash Test Vehicle Record Reported
No Fire Damage Record Reported No Airbag Deployment Record Reported
No Automotive Recycler Record Reported No Damage Disclosure Record Reported
No Frame Damage Record Reported No Collision Repair Facility Record Reported
Police Accident Record Reported

Accident Indicators Detail:
Date: Source: Detail:
05/19/1996 New York Police Report Accident Reported
Vehicle involved in crash
with another motor vehicle

04/19/2002 New York Police Report Accident Reported
Vehicle involved in crash
with a guide rail


New York Police Reports:
Do not include an assessment of damage severity
Are required if the estimated damage exceeds $1000
Are released to CARFAX approximately 3 months after the accident date. At times, New York may have a backlog that will affect how quickly some accident records are displayed on the Vehicle History Report.

According to the National Safety Council, Injury Facts, 2003 edition, 12% of the 243 million registered vehicles in the U.S. were involved in an accident in 2002. Over 90% of these were considered minor or moderate.
CARFAX depends on public and private sources for its accident data. Each one of these sources has different processing times. CARFAX can only report what is in our database on 10.Apr.2006 19:38:25. New data will result in a change to this report.
Not all accidents are reported to the Police. Tell us if you know of other fender benders, accidents or damage.

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Truth-In-Mileage Check:


GOOD NEWS! No major odometer problems were ever reported by a DMV under the Truth-In-Mileage Act for this 1994 PORSCHE 968. If you find that any of the following odometer problems were reported by a DMV and not included in this report, CARFAX will buy this vehicle back. You must register to activate this free guarantee!

Not Actual Mileage Title - issued by DMV when the owner discloses mileage fraud or a broken odometer.
Exceeds Mechanical Limits Title - issued by DMV when the owner discloses an odometer rollover.


Odometer Rollback Check:


CARFAX found no odometer rollbacks for this 1994 PORSCHE 968. Rollbacks reported in this section originate from readings collected by a DMV or other verifiable source.

Mileage Consistency Check:


CARFAX found no inconsistent odometer readings in the mileage history of this 1994 PORSCHE 968.

Date: Mileage:
09/12/1995 8,229
09/30/1996 17,138
03/13/1998 33,189
04/01/1998 33,393
09/29/1998 38,754
01/07/1999 41,387
05/24/1999 44,214
12/13/1999 49,357
02/14/2000 50,495
03/30/2000 51,944
04/11/2000 52,154
12/15/2000 58,515
04/03/2001 61,010
04/03/2001 61,012
06/13/2001 62,151
02/22/2002 66,200
04/08/2002 66,223
05/28/2003 71,350
02/07/2004 71,831
06/29/2004 72,172



Average miles driven per year 7,665 CARFAX AdvisorTM Compare this vehicle's average annual mileage to the industry average of 15,000 miles per year. Use this comparison to determine how this vehicle was driven.

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Ownership History:


CARFAX estimates that this 1994 PORSCHE 968 had 2 owner(s). CARFAX analyzed this vehicle's title history and other supporting events to identify potential ownership transfers. In compliance with the U.S. privacy laws, CARFAX does not collect or report owner names or addresses.

Estimated Owners: Date: Location:
1st owner 04/17/1995 New York
2nd owner 04/08/2002 New York

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Types of Owners:


This 1994 PORSCHE 968 was checked for 8 types of registrations.

Personal Use Registration Reported No Fleet Registration Reported
No Lease Registration Reported No Commercial Registration Reported
No Rental Registration Reported No Non-Profit Registration Reported
No Taxi Registration Reported No Built to Non U.S. Standards Record Reported

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This 1994 PORSCHE 968 has no recalls that still require repair.

Date: Source: Description:
04/10/2006 Porsche Cars North America No recalls open for repair

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For your convenience, CARFAX has estimated the remaining original manufacturer warranty coverage based on information reported to us on this 1994 PORSCHE 968. Please confirm remaining factory warranty and extended warranty options with your dealer. Interested in an extended warranty?

Estimated start date of warranty: 03/15/1995
Last reading reported on 06/29/2004: 72,172 miles Recalculate with current mileage
Today's Date: April 10, 2006

Type of Coverage: Original Warranty: Estimated Remaining Coverage:
Basic 24 months or unlimited mileage Coverage expired
Drivetrain 24 months or unlimited mileage Coverage expired
Emissions 60 months or 50,000 miles Coverage expired
Corrosion 120 months or unlimited mileage Coverage expired
Transferable Transferable at no cost. Same
Roadside Assistance No data reported to CARFAX
Safety Belt & Inflatable Restraint No data reported to CARFAX
Specific Components No data reported to CARFAX
Notes: Manufacturer covers emissions components under basic warranty. Emissions coverage may vary by state. Refer to owners manual for specific details. Transferable: not cost, unlimited owners covered.




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CARFAX searched more than 4 billion records from over 7,600 sources and found 29 record(s) for this 1994 PORSCHE 968.

Date:
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03/15/1995 New York
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Patchogue, NY
Registered as
personal vehicle


04/17/1995 New York
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Rosedale, NY
Title issued or updated
First owner reported


09/12/1995 8,229 Inspection Co.
New York
Vehicle Inspected
Anti-theft device present
at the time of inspection


05/19/1996 New York
Police Report
Case #6-347013
Accident Reported
Vehicle involved in crash
with another motor vehicle


09/30/1996 17,138 Inspection Co.
New York
Vehicle Inspected
Anti-theft device present
at the time of inspection


03/13/1998 33,189 New York
Inspection Station
New York City Area
Passed safety inspection
Passed emissions inspection

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04/01/1998 33,393 Service Facility
Vehicle serviced
Transmission serviced
Suspension system serviced
Lubed oil and filter changed


09/29/1998 38,754 Service Facility
Vehicle serviced
Lubed oil and filter changed
Suspension system serviced


01/07/1999 41,387 Service Facility
Vehicle serviced


05/24/1999 44,214 Service Facility
Vehicle serviced


12/13/1999 49,357 Service Facility
Vehicle serviced
Cooling system serviced


02/14/2000 50,495 Service Facility
Vehicle serviced


03/30/2000 51,944 New York
Inspection Station
New York City Area
Passed safety inspection
Passed emissions inspection

View what was inspected

04/11/2000 52,154 Service Facility
Vehicle serviced
Suspension system serviced
Engine serviced
Lubed oil and filter changed


12/15/2000 58,515 Service Facility
Vehicle serviced


04/03/2001 61,010 Service Facility
Vehicle serviced
State inspection completed


04/03/2001 61,012 New York
Inspection Station
New York City Area
Passed safety inspection
Passed emissions inspection

View what was inspected

06/13/2001 62,151 Service Facility
Vehicle serviced


02/22/2002 66,200 New York
Inspection Station
New York City Area
Passed safety inspection
Passed emissions inspection

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04/08/2002 66,223 New York
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Title issued or updated
New owner reported
Loan or lien reported


04/19/2002 New York
Police Report
Case #30518076
Accident Reported
Vehicle involved in crash
with a guide rail


05/28/2003 71,350 New York
Inspection Station
Passed safety inspection
Passed emissions inspection

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02/07/2004 71,831 Inspection Co.
New York
Vehicle Inspected
Anti-theft device present
at the time of inspection


02/12/2004 New York
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Islip, NY
Title issued or updated
Registration issued or renewed
Registered as
personal vehicle
Loan or lien reported
Passed safety inspection


04/02/2004 New York
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Islip, NY
Registration issued or renewed
Correction to record
Registered as
personal vehicle
Passed safety inspection


06/29/2004 72,172 New York
Inspection Station
Passed safety inspection
Passed emissions inspection

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03/17/2006 New York
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Islip, NY
Registration issued or renewed
Registered as
personal vehicle
Passed safety inspection


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Posted 10 April 2006 - 05:58 PM

it's interesting that they list services as small as oil changes and suspension lubes, but nothing about belts or anything like that

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Posted 10 April 2006 - 06:34 PM

it's interesting that they list services as small as oil changes and suspension lubes, but nothing about belts or anything like that

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In speaking with the guy about his car yesterday, I don't think the belts have been changed, he didn't think so at least.

How bad is that for a 72K car? He said he thinks water pump and belts are original I think. . .

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Posted 10 April 2006 - 07:03 PM

very - they should be just about ready for the second change by now - if your guy doesn't think it' a big deal, get a new guy - if you pop a belt you're in for at least 3 grand - max life is 8 yrs or 60k - service is supposed to be at 45k - many people are wisely now changing them at 30k to prevent the aformentioned tragedy

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Posted 11 April 2006 - 04:59 AM

Build the belt/water pump change into the price. The accidents don't bother me if the repairs were done well but depnds on the severity of the accident. NY requires damages as low as $1000 be reported so it could have been a small or large amount of damage.

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Posted 11 April 2006 - 07:11 PM

I appreciate the device. I haven't seen the car yet and since it's close I think I'll check it out. Right now the guy is asking $12,900 and the price is negotiable. Best case, I can talk the price down even further for a car that has had some bodywork, but runs well (he says it runs beautifully). Worst case, the car is busted.

A local race shop near me said they would do a PPI with compression and leakdown for a couple hundred bucks, do you think this car is worth it if I can get if for say $10,500?

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Posted 12 April 2006 - 03:52 AM

If the repairs are done well, the car checks out and it is color/combo/options you like then certainly is worth it. I'm still kicking myself for letting a $10.5K cab get away that needeed some TLC.

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Posted 12 April 2006 - 07:41 AM

Trahsub,

Are you looking at this car on Long Island that is on AutoTrader?

http://tinyurl.com/zv4fo

The VIN for the car is WP0AA2961RS820609

If so, there was a thread on .net where someone actually looked at the car and gave his assessment. The thread is here (by the way, I am not the Richard that is referred to in the post):

http://65.61.16.109/...?TOPIC_ID=11692

Good luck with your search. If this car doesn't work out for you, there are still quite a few great 968s out there.

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Posted 12 April 2006 - 08:26 AM

Definately the same car, look at the accident report # and mileage at 6/2004.

This does not sound like a winner at any price, no where near $10k, JMHO

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Posted 12 April 2006 - 11:29 AM

I live about 15 minutes from there, I could go over and take a look at it if you are seriously considering it. PM me.

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Posted 13 April 2006 - 03:05 AM

Trahsub,

Are you looking at this car on Long Island that is on AutoTrader?

http://tinyurl.com/zv4fo

The VIN for the car is WP0AA2961RS820609

If so, there was a thread on .net where someone actually looked at the car and gave his assessment. The thread is here (by the way, I am not the Richard that is referred to in the post):

http://65.61.16.109/...?TOPIC_ID=11692

Good luck with your search. If this car doesn't work out for you, there are still quite a few great 968s out there.

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Thank you so much, you just saved me a trip and $210 bucks to get a PPI done on the same car at the same place (TJX).

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